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| Indiantelevision.com's
interview with ESPN Software India managing director RC Venkateish |
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'We
have enough high quality relevant content to provide
for each of the three channels'
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| Posted
on 30 April 2007 |
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Just
when everyone was thinking that sports broadcasters might
look to "de-risk" the cricket story, ESPN Star Sports
has announced the launch of a dedicated cricket channel for
Indian audiences. The new channel, christened Star Cricket,
will commence transmission in June.
Star Cricket will be making its bow with a big bang property
to showcase because its launch coincides with the India tour
of England that involves four Tests and seven One Day Internationals.
Indiantelevision.com caught up with ESPN Software India
managing director RC Venkateish in an attempt to get a feel
of what was guiding this decision.
Excerpts:
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Is this the right time to launch another cricket centric sports
channel, particularly considering the disillusionment of the
general public with the game in the country?
Suffice to say that there is still no challenge to cricket
as the single sport which has pole position in the Indian
market. And I don't see that changing anytime in the near
future. So, from the perspective of timing, we really don't
think that is an issue.
What
is more important is the longer term picture and going forward
we continue to believe that cricket will continue to hold
its own and in fact strengthen as there is a lot of new talent
coming in.
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Nobody's is arguing that India will not continue to remain
cricket-centric. But the fact of the matter is that for something
like this to work, it has to be underpinned by high levels
of interest in the domestic game as well, which is not the
case in India. In fact, this is a problem that Neo Sports
seems to be confronting as well.
Which is a pity actually. In fact, if the local tournaments
are properly marketed and properly packaged for the viewers,
have the potential. We unfortunately don't have the rights
for that.
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Exactly, and isn't that what Nimbus is hoping to leverage
on Neo Sports. And you don't have local Indian cricket to
showcase, so what is the USP of your channel?
What we will be showcasing in fact, apart from the international
matches, is county cricket in England and domestic cricket
in Australia, which also feature some of the best players
in the world, including a lot of Indian players. There will
also be a substantial effort to market that.
In
many ways we will be doing a parallel to things like English
Premier League. Where it was four or five years ago to where
it is today, it is really a result of the investments that
we have done in promoting that property and making it interesting
for the viewer.
If
you just pick up something and put it on the channel, it is
not going to work. That is the job of marketing to popularize
a particular sport. It has to be exploited and executed properly.
Even the domestic Indian tournament, it needs to be put across
properly to the viewer. It is not something that will happen
automatically.
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There are two strands to the communication that you sent out
on your upcoming channel. One is that you will showcase live
India and non India cricket. You will also showcase feature
programming, including reality reality shows?
Reality shows are like we had recently Harsha ki Khoj
Dream Job. That genre has lot of space. It has a lot of
opportunities for us to create programming around that. We
will be developing more such shows and putting them across
to the viewer.
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Fair
enough but the point is that now you have three platforms
through which you have to transmute content. Is there enough
content to go around?
On the content side, over the last couple of years, we
strengthened our cache, not just in cricket but in all other
sports. We just recently renewed the English Premier League.
We have the Spanish League, we have Euro 2008. Those are the
big soccer properties. In tennis, we added the French Open
so we now have it along with Wimbledon and the Australian.
In motor sports we have Formula 1 and A1. In golf we have
all the major properties.
So,
if you look at each and every sport and the key properties,
they are all residing on our channel. Along with this, we
have other smaller content also which has come on the network.
As
for cricket, for the next 14-16 months I have India's tour
of England, the Twenty20 World Cup, India's tour of Australia,
the Asia Cup and the Champion's Trophy. That is five major
cricketing events.
So
I don't believe that we are in anyway falling short of providing
high quality relevant content in each of these three channels.
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What
about distribution? Right now we are in a very uncertain distribution
market, both on analog as well as on digital cable, with Cas
only in the beginnings of being rolled out. And in such a
time you are launching a 3rd channel?
I agree with you that there are a lot of people having
trouble finding distribution. But ultimately, your bottom
line is going to be content. I think we will be in a position
to demonstrate it through cable and to the viewer that the
content we have to showcase on the channel are of a quality
that must be carried.
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Let
us accept that you have great content, but today the reality
of placement fees cannot be wished away. And it means that
slots are booked on tunable bandwidths for one year, two years
I think that applies more to other genres. Unless people
see your channel how will they get hooked on to it? They will
not demand it. For my cricket channel, I don't have to create
a demand.
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There
is the recent example of Neo Sports, which had great content
but still faced distribution problems?
The difference is that Neo Sports did not have its own
distribution team.
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Well
they had Star distributing them, which is as good as it can
get?
I don't know what Neo Sports needed to do but they didn't
do, or what support they got, I don't really want to comment
on that. But as far as we're concerned, we have the strongest
distribution as well as distribution team in India, and I
am completely confident that we will not have any issues with
our channel.
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'We
have been delivering higher and higher reach and we
haven't seen the proper monies for that as yet'
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That still doesn't explain how you're going to find place
in a tunable bandwidth if all the slots are already locked
in.
In case there is a cricket match happening, he (the cable
operator has to put it in the prime band. I can't see a situation
where the matches will not be shown.
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There is the option of DD, where the matches are being
shown because of must carry.
Test matches are not going to be shown on DD. I agree
with you that channels tend to go up and down, especially
the ones who don't pay money to the cable operator. That is
a fact.
Even
then, we have always managed to be there in prime band even
when we didn't have cricket running. And you must understand
that in regards to sports channels there has been a certain
amount of consolidation. So the other channels which don't
have relevant content tend to be pushed onto the hyper band.
There
will be a little bit of juggling and we will have to manage
that. But as a company policy, we will certainly not pay any
carriage fee or any placement fee. We are a pay channel and
we will get our price.
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What rates have you fixed for the new channel?
We haven't announced the final rate but it should be in
the region of around Rs 28 to RS 30.
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Let's talk about the ICC cricket rights. I take you back to
a comment you'd made earlier to Indiantelevision.com that
the crazy escalation in rights prices will start cooling down
a bit. And yet you went and plonked $ 1.1 billion for those
rights?
If you do a bit of math, you'll see that whatever I said
earlier has actually happened. Let's benchmark it with some
of the other rights. The BCCI rights, which the previous version
was for $ 50 million for five years, went for $ 612 million
for four years. So that's basically an escalation of 1,400
per cent.
Now
take the ICC, the last ICC went for $ 550 million. So that's
basically a 100 per cent increase. And the last ICC did not
have events like the Twenty20 World Cup, which have been added
on this property.
What
we have paid over eight years, is basically a 9 per cent per
annum escalation in rights fee, as opposed to some of the
other properties, which in recent times have gone absolutely
berserk. The BCCI, as well as the BCCI offshore cricket rights
package sold to Zee for over $ 215 million ($ 219.15 million).
Even
if you look at things like the Sri Lanka board for $ 50 million,
or the Bangladesh board, which went for $ 56 million after
going for $ 6-7-8 million last time.
So
what we have paid for are not just the World Cups and Champions
Trophies, but also what is going to develop into a real cracker
of a property - the Twenty20 World Cup. Not once, but thrice.
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From an average per day cost perspective, and if we compare
the three properties that went for big bucks, how does such
a payout work?
Zee paid $ 8.71 million, BCCI went for around $ 3-4 million
per day and we are around the same ball park.
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There are also the cricket rights that are coming up over
the next 12 months for many big territories over the next
year and a half. You have already committed $ 1.1 billion
for the ICC rights as well as all the other rights you've
mopped up recently, so where do you stand on that?
We are quite comfortable with the levels of investment
we've made thus far and what we have identified as key acquisitions
for the future.
But
having the ICC rights provides us a very strong backbone of
cricket over the next eight years. Whatever else we add on
would be accretive to what we already have so it won't be
necessary to go out and buy everything under the sun.
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What
of the territories that ESS currently own - England, Australia,
New Zealand, South Africa? Will you be making aggressive bids
to retain them?
We
haven't formalised how we're going to go about it yet.
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I again come back to the disaster that was the World Cup.
Everyone was expecting 2007 to be cricket's year as far as
advertising is concerned due to the sheer volumes of A list
properties that are coming up throughout the year. Now will
all the calculations have to be reworked?
On this I have a different take. I think the advertisers
have had it pretty good so far. I have an argument we need
to push more forcefully and that is something as a broadcasting
community we haven't done enough of. The fact of the matter
is all the rates that advertisers have been paying us have
been on the basis of CPRP at a time when overall reach has
doubled.
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But
this is an argument that Star's Paritosh Joshi has raised, as
too Zee's Joy Chakraborty. Today we are faced with a situation
where HLL has pulled out its advertising from Star. And the
broadcasting community does not seem to have any unity on this
issue so what are we talking here?
There is unity developing on this issue and you will see
a more forceful exposition of the point in the days to come.
Certainly at IBF we are all seized of it in terms of a consolidation
of our position.
We have been delivering higher and higher reach and we haven't
seen the proper monies for that as yet.
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Coming
back to the development of local sport, you've earlier stated
that Sports federations need to get their act together. One
of the biggest culprits in that sense is the IHF run by KPS
Gill with whom you're a partner. One could say that it is because
of the mess the IHF is in that the PHL is not taking off. So
doesn't it make sense to encourage the IHF to get itself sorted
out?
Our experience with the PHL has been very positive. There
wasn't anything in PHL that we needed to do and have not been
able to do because of lack of support from IHF. Suffice to say
that we are quite happy, both with the way the PHL has performed
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But
you yourself have said one reason why PHL is not taking of is
because they are not performing well internationally. I think
it is interlinked. If the federation was being run properly,
the teams would be doing better internationally. A follows B,
one could argue.
How federations are run is not something I would like to
comment on. We stand ready to help the federation in any way
we can but it is not our brief to tell the associations how
they are to be run. Because, quite frankly, this is something
they need to work out among themselves. |
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