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| Indiantelevision.com's
interview with Hyde Park Entertainment chairman and CEO Ashok Amritraj |
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'50
per cent of the challenge of filmmaking lies in marketing'
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on 6 August 2007 |
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Former
tennis player turned Hollywood film producer Ashok Amritraj
has reason to celebrate. Having spent 25 years in filmmaking,
he was recently in India to collaborate with English
movie channel Pix from the Sony stable to kick off a reality
show titled 'Gateway.'
Amritraj's
new hunt: to discover the "hidden filmmaking talent in India." His firm
Hyde Park Entertainment will act as a platform for this talent to go international.
In
an interview with Indiantelevision.com's Ashwin Pinto, Amritraj
shares his insight into the business of filmmaking in the West, his relationship
with studios and the experience of working with top talent in the industry like
Bruce Willis and Steve Martin. Excerpts: |
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What opportunities does the burgeoning Indian media and entertainment scene offer
for Hyde Park? The good news for India is that the entertainment industry
is growing. The television industry has seen enormous growth. The motion picture
industry will hit a steep curve over the next five to seven years. The younger
generation of filmmakers are much more globalised. They understand filmmaking
in a different way compared with their predecessors. There
are interesting opportunities in a growing industry. My business is in Hollywood
first and foremost. But I have always felt a great affection and affinity for
the country where I grew up. This year is the 25th anniversary of my being in
Hollywood and I have made over 95 movies. It felt like the time was right to come
back and do something here. |
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How did the idea for 'Gateway' come about? Young Indian filmmakers
have a lot of talent. Around a year ago over dinner with Sunder Aaron (Pix's business
head) I expressed an idea that involved a search for a talented aspiring filmmaker
who would be given an opportunity to work with my company and make a Hollywood
film. Pix
was interested and so we started to evolve the whole idea. The concept got bigger
and better. We are excited about seeing 'Gateway' come to fruition. |
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In the US Mark Burnett and Steven Spielberg did a film-based reality show On
The Lot which didn't fare as well as had been expected. What went wrong and
how confident are you that 'Gateway' will take off? I don't think that
anything went wrong. It comes down to a person's take on a certain kind of a show.
At the end of the day our show will pick a director and give him an incredible
opportunity. Spielberg's show was the same way. However,
the way of getting there and the tasks that they go through the elimination process
is completely different. In one way it is close to The Apprentice as I
will act as a mentor. In another way it is also close to Project Greenlight,
which was done by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon.
There
are different things being done. Our show is very India centric.
It is for Indians. The aim is to make the path of a talented
Indian filmmaker to Hollywood easier. We are looking to provide
a platform for a young fresh Indian director to showcase his/her
talent on the world stage. He/she is guaranteed a distribution
of his movies between Sony and Hyde Park Entertainment.
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brought you and Pix together? Our relationship with Pix is based on their
tagline - We Tell Stories. This is the basis on which Pix was launched. A lot
of what they do is story based. Top Hollywood producers also feel the same way.
Money
is available from a myriad of sources like hedge funds. However stories, talented
and original storywriters are hard to find. When you do an initiative like Gateway
you could find an extraordinary talent like an Ang Lee or an Alejandro Gonzalez
Inarritu. |
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are you looking for in candidates?
I often speak at schools and colleges and also at UCLA, AFI and so on in the
US. I say that PQ plus CQ will always beat IQ which means that in films the passion
quotient combined with the curiosity quotient will always trump the intelligence
quotient. You
also need abilities like how to handle actors, how to work with creativity, how
to formulate a story, how to keep a producer happy. As you put all these pieces
together and add to that a personality that can work, you try to frame the whole
picture. |
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you looking at other television projects? No! I am a film guy. I have
not done television. Internationally Gateway represents my first foray
into television. This project is personal. It is less about doing a TV show and
more about finding hidden filmmaking talent in India. |
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Last year you
had mentioned that Hyde Park was looking at a JV with an Indian animation firm.
Has anything happened on this front? Practically everyone has come to
us to do something. We are going to make a film here in October called The
Other End Of the Line. We will use an Indian actress who could be a newcomer
or who has done a couple of movies. It is a question of finding talent. Hyde Park
is looking to act as a platform for Indian talent to go international. Bollywood
films may not crossover into Hollywood but I certainly think that Indian directors
and actors can achieve this. |
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In general what does Hyde Park look for in a project before giving the go ahead?
Everything starts creatively. Our creative team in Los Angeles is presented
with around 100 pitches each month. These include novels, books, videogames, comics,
screenplays. We look at over 1000 projects a year. We develop a dozen and make
three to four films. Those three or four films are chosen on the basis of creativity,
gut feel and the kind of film we are looking to make. Secondly
you look at the distribution paradigm and you look at who will want to watch this
kind of a film. The distribution team gets involved and lets us know what will
work and where. Then we get a casting director to tell us things like a certain
project will only work if Brad Pitt is involved or it will only work with Kevin
Bacon. All these pieces are put together which is why it comes down to only three
to four films. |
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When you work with a big star like Steve Martin on Shopgirl how much of
a collaborative process is it? I am closely involved with every film
we make which is why we only make three to four films a year. I could make ten
movies a year but we do not as I would not be able to give enough attention to
each one of them. The
areas where I am very personally involved is developing the screenplay to a point
where I as a producer am happy with it. I am closely involved with getting the
principal cast and the director. Then I get hands on post-production. During the
production period the director runs the project. We
start with storyboards. So you have the movie laid out before you pretty much.
We know where the camera angles are, where the locations are. We then do a read
through with the whole cast. Sometimes we take a complicated scene from a camera
point of view and computerise it. For me the post-production process in terms
of the cutting, sound and music becomes very critical. |
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Could you talk about some of your favourite experiences of
working with creative talent?
I have worked with a number of very talented actors over the years.
Steve Martin is brilliant as he is a writer as well. We worked very closely together
on Shopgirl as it was his novel which he entrusted to me. He wrote the
screenplay and produced it with me. I also worked with him on Bringing Down
The House which was a completely different experience. Queen Latifah was a
complete pleasure to work with. She is a great character. I
did Bandits with Bruce Willis, Billy Bon Thornton and Cate Blanchett. That
was a dynamic experience as was working with Anjelina Jolie and Antonio Banderas
on Original Sin. All these actors are extraordinarily professional. They
arrive on time and treat their craft as a business. They are very disciplined
which results in success. |
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As a producer when you have a film like Bandits with more than one big
star, how much of a challenge is it to deal with egos? Actors always have
to check their egos. That is a task I have to deal with. It is also part of the
director's job. When we pick a talented filmmaker through our Gateway initiative,
he is going to have to understand that managing actors is a large part of the
job. |
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Filmmaking
is getting democratised
with the use of mobile phones & Youtube' |
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How did a tennis player from India like you get accepted in Hollywood? The
first six to seven years were an incredible struggle. Nobody wanted to make a
movie with me as our family was not involved in the movie business at all. I
got lucky in 1984. I met a young chap who was a limousine driver. I met him again
in 1990 at the Cannes Film Festival. He said that out of 800 photographs he had
sent, only I had responded. The person was Jean Claude Van Damme and we made Double
Impact. Then people in the industry found messages that I had called two years
earlier. They got back to me and things started to roll. |
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You have been making films for two decades now. What is the biggest change you
have noticed in the industry? There have been many. In 1984-85 when I
started to make movies for half a million dollars, there was at that time a fight
between two formats - VHS and Beta Max. VHS won in the end. Then the international
market for Hollywood grew. Satellite movie channels became more prominent. The
digital revolution is amazing. You just have to look at what George Lucas did
with Star Wars. A more recent film 300 was shot against a green
screen. It is an exciting time to launch Gateway as directors today have
more tools at their fingertips. |
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Would
you say that filmmaking has become more democratised? Absolutely! Democratised
is a great word to use. One can use a mobile phone to make a movie. There is Youtube
through which you can get millions of film fans to view your film and comment
on it. Anybody can make a film. You
do not have to be the son or daughter of someone famous to enter filmmaking. You
don't need to have a huge film background to get into it. You need talent, vision
and creativity. Gateway is a democratisation of filmmaking. |
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Are
new forms of distribution like VoD making it easier for a film producer to recover
costs? It is another revenue stream. But I agree with guys like Scorcese
and Tarantino that a film has to make money theatrically if it is to be anything
on video or video on demand. |
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When
you started out you focussed on action and comedy. Are you looking to branch out
further in terms of genres? I hate to sound egotistical but I have worked
in all genres. I have done action films like Double Impact, action comedies
like Bandits, serious films like Shopgirl, Moonlight Mile and family films like
Dreamer. The thing that I like about Hollywood is that I can do different things.
We just released
Premonition with Sandra Bullock. We will release Death Sentence which is
a gritty action film. It is not a 'shoot them up' film and I believe it will make
audiences think a lot. It is about an ordinary man being put in an extraordinary
position and to what extent he would go. It stars Kevin Bacon and Kelly Preston. |
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You
co-produce films with different studios. How would you describe your relationship
with them? I have worked with pretty much every studio. My main deals
today are with Fox and Disney. I have a first look deal with Fox and a second
look deal with Disney. Death Sentence is being released by Fox on 31 August.
I am also close with the guys at Sony and Paramount. I made Dreamer with
Dreamworks. I have made ten movies with MGM. |
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How
does the Bollywood system compare with Hollywood in terms of creativity and professionalism?
The Bollywood system has worked for many decades now. I think that they are
now gravitating towards fully completed scripts before shooting commences. There
are more storyboards in Bollywood now as you cannot shoot visual effects without
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Are
films like the Oscar winner Crash a sign that Hollywood
is becoming more multi-cultural now compared to the early 1980s?
Definitely! When I
started out 25 years back, I could not find another Indian guy. Today there are
Indian agents, studio executives. There are Asians all over the place. Also, Hollywood
is getting inspired by stories from Asia and so you have films like The Ring,
Dark Water and The Grudge. Also you have Asian stars like Chow Yun
Fat, Michelle Yeoh, Gong Li, Jackie Chan and Jet Li. |
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Do
you feel that there is a lack of respect for IPR in bollywood?
I think
what is lacking is good quality writers. Writers need to be encouraged more here.
They are the lifeblood of the Hollywood business. |
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Why
can't India have a global film like what China is doing with films like Crouching
Tiger Hidden Dragon? I think that songs and dances in Bollywood films
are a cultural barrier for someone in Idaho. However the way for Indian cinema
to succeed overseas is to make films that emotionally resonate across the globe.
That is what The Last King Of Scotland did. That film could have been made
by anyone. Little Miss Sunshine and Letters From Iwo Jima did the
same thing. The casting was also great. Emotionally resonant films come out of
great stories and not necessarily from simply having a big star like Tom Cruise. |
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Finally
how much of a threat do you feel new forms of entertainment like gaming will be
to films five years down the road? I know that I am not only competing
against other films but also with other forms of entertainment. Marketing
will have to become more savvy. At Comic Con which was recently held in Las Vegas,
we gave away products to push our new film. That is one way in which you can differentiate
yourself in a cluttered media environment. Fifty per cent of the challenge of
filmmaking lies in marketing. |
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