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| Indiantelevision.com's
interview with Star India creative director Shailja Kejriwal |
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"We
killed Anurag Basu in 'Kasauti...' and that killed 'Ayushmaan'"
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| Posted
on 7 September 2004 |
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The
woman behind the leading entertainment channel in India talks about
the ways of maintaining the lead and keeping viewers hooked. If
there is a list drawn up of the hottest young television professionals
in India, her name will surely figure in it. Five years with Star
India, Shailja Kejriwal continues to ooze optimistism and passion.
Coming
from a conservative Marwari family, born and brought up in the City
of Joy, Kolkata, movies have been her biggest passion. Whether it
was handling creative --screenplays, scripting, editing, ideating
for storyline in her ealier days -- or whether it is at Star India
in capacity of a creative director, she's been key in steering the
creative for the entertainment monster Star Plus. Kejriwal offers
some interesting insights in a free wheeling conversation with indiantelevision.com's
Sonali Krishna.
Excerpts:
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What have been the highlights for Star Plus this year?
The
biggest highlight this year, is the fact that we have sustained
our channel share, considering this year in particular has seen
the emergence of a lot of new channels. The second being, the treatment
given to our current shows. We have very slowly, perceptively and
consciously understood our viewer needs. And without getting into
knee-jerk reactions, we have woven gradual changes within the plot,
which is why you have seen our shows spurt and grow. Despite cricket
and the burst of channels, we have maintained a 18 - 20 per cent
channel share as compared to a Sony or a Zee.
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Hindi
general entertainment as a category has been dipping? What would
you attribute this to?
One of the main reasons would be the growth of regional channels.
They have seen a growth of about 14 per cent this year. So, Hindi
general entertainment channels have been eaten away a little bit
by the regional boom, a little bit by cricket and also with the
emergence of so many niche channels. In no other year, has there
been a spurt of so many new channels.
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How
are you looking at strengthening the Plus' current command considering
the overall GRPs relatively have been on a downslide?
See, we had the lion's share and we continue to do so. So, with
newer channels coming up if viewership is going to get fragmented,
its obvious that it is going to go from Star Plus. Our endeavour
has been to increase the whole entertainment pie, which is why we
launched Star One. Also, adding value to existing products and promoting
it. Along with that, we have launched new shows as well as looked
at widening our audience base. So, if our core audience has been
women, we have looked at programming that would interest kids and
men as well. Shows like K Street Pali Hill, Khul Ja Sim
Sim and Kaal Chakra have all been an effort to get in
the male audience.
Let's
take a show like Hello Dollie for instance. Hello Dollie's
base viewership is 15 - 25. So, 15 - 25 TG is watching Hello
Dollie, they will then get into Dekho magar Pyaar Se
followed by Kasauti Zindagi Kay (KZK). From KZK, the
viewership becomes 25+ which gets into programming after 9. KJSS
is again an effort which is not restricted to any particular TG,
but is meant for family viewing. So, with the whole family is watching
KJSS, we then move into shows skewed towards men which is
Kaal Chakra where the viewership becomes 35 +.
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Now
with Star One, how are you segregating shows and looking at different
TGs?
Between
Star One and Star Plus, the operation is very clear. Star Plus is
family and fun and Star One is metro youth. So, Star One is clearly
targeted at Mumbai, Delhi and other metros, youth 15 - 35. From
our scheme of things there is no overlap. Star One's prime time
starts at 8 pm. Now, we launch a show at 7:30 pm (Hello Dollie)
that delves into every girls fantasy that breaks boundaries and
cuts across youth of metro, non-metro and caters to everyone, where
as Remix on Star One is about youth, angst and rebels. The
rebelliousness is niche, which is very urban metro. So, although
Hello Dollie is slightly modern, it is in keeping with reality
and hence expanding the scope a little bit.
Star
One is bang on target. The biggest shares for Star One is coming
from Mumbai 15-25. And Plus has always been about family and volumes.
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The
current brands that drive Plus are Kyunki.., Kahaani and Kasauti..?
What are the next set of brands being developed so as for them to
become channel drivers?
No,
I don't agree with that. Our 9 -10 pm band are equally channel drivers.
Do you know getting a 9 rating over a one-hour is equivalent to
getting an 18 rating in a half hour daily. To sustain viewers over
one hour, the rating of 9 is over an hour and to top it all they
being weeklies and most in their third year. I think that's a phenomenal
achievement. Because, there has been no other one hour format across
any other channel that has worked. Also, you must realise the 9
pm is the most challenged band. Every channel targets the 9 pm band,
and despite that, our 9 pms have retained this kind of viewership.
If you look at prime-prime it is 9-11 pm. And if you look at competition,
whether it is a Kkusum or a Jassi
at 9 pm and
9:30 pm against our one hours, it's a tough battle. For whatever
(Sony's) Jassi
did at its height, it never crossed
any of our 9 pms ever. Also, you can't forget my afternoon band.
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Agreed,
but what set of brands are you developing next? Whats going to be
the next key driver?
We
are all in search of that one big driver. The way a daily can sustain
itself, in terms of its potential to stick nothing else can. Even
if you do a Kaun Banega Crorepati, it has a life span. It
will rock the world for some time, but after a point it will have
to go off-air and come back as the next season. It can't go on for
four years. I think the three K's (Kyunki.., Kahaani.., Kasautii..)
have become a part of the family for our viewers and the other shows
can only be friends who come visiting and leave.
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"2005
will be a year of consolidation and maintaining the distance
between the number one and two"
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What
is the road map for Plus for the coming year (2005)?
2005 will be a year of consolidation and maintaining the distance
between the number one and two and the ongoing strife to make it wider. |
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Indian
Idol has received a lot of sampling, and has also received good
ratings? What are you going to react to that?
Really?
Do you think Indian Idol can justify its cost per rating
point. When we launched KBC, we were nowhere on the horizon.
But, we put all our monies into KBC, and KBC changed
the face of television. Indian Idol was supposed to do that
for Sony. They put as much effort and money on Indian Idol
as we put behind KBC, but KBC is history and Indian
Idol has been ok. It came and will go. It has not rocked anything.
It has got as much ratings on that slot as a Jassi... was
getting in any case. Before Indian Idol's launch Jassi..
was averaging a 4.5 - 5 TVR, so Indian Idol in fact has taken
ratings away from Jassi..
After
spending so much money, if Sony is happy with a 5 TVR, I'm happy
for them. So, they have actually landed up weakening Jassi..
which is good for us. Because of this complete chaos with the slotting
of Jassi
and they using their loyal viewership which
Jassi.. had created as well as taking a lead in from Kkusum
they have not even created an additional slot for themselves.
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Sony's
10:30 pm band starting in December will be looking at crime based
thrillers? Do you see that as a potential threat?
We see any new launch as a potential threat. We observe it for
five weeks and then we bury it. We did the same with Ayushmaan
and Hum 2 Hain Na. Yeh Meri Life Hain (YMLH)
is in fact surviving on Kahaani's.. break ratings.
Our Kahaani... viewers surf during the breaks and hence YMLH
manages a two TVR.
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How difficult is it today to build a identity for a brand today?
It
is tougher and it requires a lot of sustenance and maintenance.
You cannot just rely on the platform.
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Give
me one example of a show on Plus launched this year becoming a brand.
Dekho
Magar Pyaar Se (DMPS). Today DMPS gets a 5.7 TVR
in an 8 pm slot.
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But
if we compare a Jassi.. and a DMPS, Jassi
became
a talking point but DMPS has not managed to achieve that.
I'll tell you why. Anything that a contender to the throne will
do will become a talking point. Also, because Jassi.. was the
first differentiated programming. I think Jassi.. made more
of an impact than Idol, whether one talks about brand building
or space in the viewer's mind. The amount of time and money spent
on Jassi.. and what it delivered was fabulous. Also, it was
also the first programme of its kind and came at a time when a new
wave came in hence it became a talking point.
But
coming back to the point, brand building has become a lot tougher.
Exposure for all channels have become very similar. Nobody is going
to go out there and find something that we don't know about and
vice versa. The production community now is a much closer knit.
The international television community and the access to international
formats is the same for everybody. That is the fun. What is important
now, is how you do it. It's not what format you acquire.
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What
is going to be the next paradigm shift in programming?
That's
a constant search. As a programming team we're always looking for
that one big idea. But as a leader in the general entertainment space
we feel that within our shows we should provide socially relevant
things. Not didactic, but we believe as a broadcaster, apart from
entertainment and due to our huge reach, we should start introducing
themes that impact people. Today, if a Tulsi says that marital rape
is a crime, even if there is no law against it, you can be sure that
35 million viewers think it is a crime. This is our way of giving
back to society. So whether it is HIV related issues and ORS in Sanjivini
or girl child education in Kyunki
and Kahaani..
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What
is your take on talent shows and format shows? Are they here to stay
or just a passing phase?
It's
very important to have format shows on a GEC (general entertainment
channel) as it provides for a great mix. It's great family viewing.
But, an overdose of anything can be fatal. Drama and story telling
is a regular feature of a GEC. But an over kill of format shows will
reduce its life span.
On
the talent front, you cannot have 10 channels hosting talent shows
at the same time. Also, because we are a part of a bouquet, we believe
that a music channel should do music and Star Plus should provide
family entertainment.
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How
does planning and research work in such a dynamic market place?
It is the most important factor. Without that I would be completely
at sea. Your gut has to be substantiated by science. That minimises
mistakes. It does not ensure success, but it does minimise errors.
You have to plan and be on the ball all the time. For instance, when
YMLH was launched, we made the story of Kahaani.. reach
a crescendo a week earlier. So, it was very difficult for our loyal
viewers to tear themselves away and sample a new programme. We made
daily promos instead of weekly ones. We created hook points. We did
the same for Ayushmaan's launch. We killed Anurag Basu in Kasauti..
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How
difficult has it become to manage a channel's programming these days?
It's more
competitive but definitely more fun. It gets very boring when you
don't have any competition. Otherwise, you can become complacent.
And, there was some amount of complacency among the reigning channels
when we launched KBC, which is why it managed to turn the tables
around. We are striving very hard not to become complacent. We compete
within ourselves. Is one group's Kasauti.. doing better than
another group's Kahaani..? That's how we compete. |
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What
day parts are you going to be focusing on? Are you looking at extending
prime-time in reverse?
We are looking at adding shares in every slot. The agenda really
is to take each show a little bit higher. On a quarterly basis, from
our scheme of things every show need to go up a little bit. |
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You
have received a lot of awards recently? What do you attribute your
success to?
Well, if you work for a channel like Star Plus, you probably get 'Best
creative director by default. |
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