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Interview with TV18 executive director Vandana Malik
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"Viewers
are not interested in seeing reality anymore on mainstream
channels"
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| Posted on
17 July 2003 |
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Any
time you meet her, Vandana Malik exudes infectious enthusiasm, a
trait that marks most of the software her company, Television 18,
creates for entertainment television channels. She was among the
core team that split from Business India Television to form an independent
television software company almost a decade ago.
When
it started, Vandana ran the Mumbai bureau of TV 18 singlehandedly.
She played the multi faceted role as the bureau head, producer,
reporter and host all rolled in one. As reporter, she conducted
celebrity interviews with Kapil Dev, Juhi Chawla, Sanjay Dutt and
scripted and directed features and profiles of various artists for
the flagship programme The India Show.
Since 1999, when TV 18 tied up with CNBC, Vandana has devised new
shows and explored genres to keep a diverse audience engaged. TV
18 has also set up a new division called 18 Entertainment with Vandana
Malik as its managing director, which now executes large scale TV
events, and designs and executes corporate events, films and specialised
training courses in various media related fields such as shooting,
editing, reporting, producing, directing, interviewing etc.
Today, she is busy exploring fresh genres for CNBC TV18, delving
into her own experiences and feedback from viewers and targeting
audience segments. In an interview with indiantelevision.com's Aparna
Joshi,
Malik shared her thoughts on programming on satellite television,
her ideas for the future and the way television in India is headed.
Excerpts -
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What was the logic behind launching 'The Art Show' and the 'Auto
Show' on CNBC TV18?
Our research showed that while trading hours on weekdays demanded
hardcore business news, which of course is CNBC TV18's core competency,
there was a need for lighter yet information filled feature shows.
These would cater to the same audience which watched our regular
shows on other days. That was what triggered the Sunday Brunch
idea, and basically came out of talking to viewers and understanding
what they wanted to see. The Art Show was born of the need
to educate viewers about how one actually went about assessing and
appreciating art, while the auto industry, that's currently booming
in the country, was the starting point for the Auto Show
that started on 10 June.
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TV18
has done some interesting shows in the past on satellite channels?
Why is it restricting itself to CNBC TV18 now?
If the offer of a good show comes along on other satellite channels,
we will definitely do it. In the past, there was a demand for different
shows on these channels. We did a diverse array and pioneered some
genres, including the India Show, a Lifestyle Show
on Zee English (for the short time that it aired local programming),
the Nikki Tonight Show on Star and others. Somehow, the current
demand seems to be for the drama genre on most channels and I am
unable to connect to that. Although I admire Ekta Kapoor for what
she has managed to achieve, soaps have not been our core competency.
Features and docudramas, mostly backed by research, has been out
forte. If what we do best is in sync with what is required on CNBC
TV18, it is satisfying.
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You
made shows like 'Bhanwar' and 'Haadsa', reality shows that got critical
as well as popular acclaim. Do you plan to make any more like these?
Bhanwar
was a landmark programme. If we tried another show on similar
lines, it would have been a me-too show. Haadsa, which aired
on Sabe TV, tried a similar track, tracing victims' lives while
giving it a feel-good touch. Unfortunately, the show never got good
viewership. Besides, in the current scenario, viewers are not interested
in seeing reality anymore on mainstream channels. They prefer to
watch something that probably takes them away from the drudgery
of real life.
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Your
last venture for a satellite channel was 'Kya Masti Kya Dhuum' for
Star Plus. Were you happy with the way it shaped up?
KMKD
was a huge show, both in terms of scale of production and celebrity
content. The channel definitely did not stinge on costs, but the
fact is we ran out of film stars after a point. With Sonali Bendre
as the host, the level of celebrities too had to be that high. The
production budget itself for the show was between Rs 10 and 15 lakh
(over Rs one million) per episode. In that scenario, we felt it
was better to leave at a high than to wait for the show to hit a
decline. In a way, it turned out to be a trendsetter for shows like
Kuch Kar Dikhana Hai that are currently running on the channel,
so it was a pioneer in its own right.
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"The
daily soap is here to stay. The genre is an addictive one, and
once viewers have been hooked on to it, it won't be easy to
dislodge their interest" |
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You had shows like 'Nikki Tonight' on Star and 'Archana Talkies'
on Sony. Would you rate these shows as successes?
Both
these shows were ahead of their time. Nikki Tonight was a
technically superior show, unfortunately it ran into hot water editorially.
Archana Talkies was a trendsetter too, but we realised a
problem as we went along. The audience was not geared to a honest
discussion, to opening up in front of the camera on a talk and variety
show. It's a problem that persists today and the genre of talk shows
suffers because of it. I repeat, viewers are not interested in reality,
they prefer to watch shows that do not require them to think too
much.
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How
are you building weekend programming on CNBC TV18?
The
idea is to broaden the scope of content and to pull as many diverse
viewers as possible. While I was working on the Good Life Show
for instance, I got the feedback that that the younger generation
is interested in fitness, just as women too are interested in segments
that would target them specifically. That was how we came up with
the idea of a four part series on the 'anywhere, anytime' fitness
segment for women executives who travel.
The Sunday Brunch is an extension of the same. Since the
channel is a focused business news channel, it is easy to develop
programmes knowing which kind of viewers you are catering to. We
are slowly expanding the scope of content, bringing in sections
like the Gourmet section in Trendmill, which hopefully bring
in a wider cross section of viewers.
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How
has CNBC grown in terms of viewer demographic?
Being
a business news channel, it basically targeted the male executive
aged above 25. Interestingly, the channel is now attracting different
viewers, particularly women. I often meet ladies who tell me they
appreciate a certain anchor on a certain show, at times even late
night news segments. We have found that even the younger generation
is getting interested in the features that we have on the channel.
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Do
you feel the genre of the soap is something that will blow over
and give way to other genres?
No.
I think the daily soap is here to stay. The genre is an addictive
one, and once viewers have been hooked on to it, it won't be easy
to dislodge their interest. Although, some of our features on CNBC
TV18, including the news segments at night do manage to rope in
the discerning viewers. And that makes me happy, if I have managed
to wean away some audiences from, say, a Kyunki…..
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With
the influx of so many news channels, is it getting tougher to maintain
viewership? Are you also considering making programmes in Hindi
to reach out to a wider base?
Inspite
of the news channels, CNBC TV18 is still the only one that provides
domestic business news exclusively. Thus far, there has been no
competition on that score. As for Hindi shows, we have had programmes
like Bazaar Aaj and Dalal Street which have used the
language.
Although this is something that will be decided by the channel editorially,
I don't think language would be a barrier.
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Finally,
is it easier to make shows for CNBC TV18, being a sister channel?
(laughs)
Easier because we don't have to sit through the nitty gritty of
budgets and bureaucratic wranglings. But every idea we throw up
has to necessarily follow the right procedure and presentations,
so it necessarily is fine tuned before we get into production.
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